It’s late 2015. Joe and Matthew are still thinking about doing a podcast.
One of the first issues to tackle is bumper music of course. Joe and Matthew discuss other podcasts and Mark Maron‘s approach specifically.
The conversation soon turns to social media and how visual artists leverage social media. They discuss the rise of studio porn. Use of the terms “social media” and “porn” demand that Jerry Saltz be discussed.
The Artspeak Red Flags list is started. Several names are dropped.
The episode ends with an ill-fitting bumper music clip.